The Kit Green UFO Investigation
Throughout 1989, there were discussions with researcher Bill Moore about the developing the Dr. Eric Walker story. Walker was the former chairman at the Institute of Defense Analysis and President at Penn State University. He clearly hinted that he knew how the UFO story had been hidden in 1947, and clearly expressed that the truth would never be made public.
Moore offered to help as well as to find out for himself exactly what Walker’s role might have been. “I find myself essentially in agreement with what you have to say.”
Moore wrote me in September of 1989. “I do not know what is going on with Walker either, but I am convinced something is. That is why I offered to help.” This effort to help by Moore led to one of the most dramatic and high-level conversations on UFOs ever to become public.
“My source is also very interested in this matter and will do anything that he can to help,” Moore stated. “Not only do I trust him implicitly, but I feel certain that he can get some straight answers out of Dr. Walker as soon as he knows just what questions to ask.”
“My source, whom I shall refer to as B.J. for the sake of convenience, is equally impressed with Dr. Walker’s background—indeed so much so that he agrees the man is (or has been) in all the right places to have been involved with such a thing. B.J. is also very good at approaching high-level people about such things and has been of considerable help to us in the past on similar matters.”
The man that Moore was referring to turned out to be Dr. Christopher C. “Kit” Green, given the aviary name Blue Jay or B.J. by Moore and Shandera. Green had headed up the “weird desk” at the CIA during his years there as Senior Division Analyst with the Office of Scientific and Weapons Intelligence (1969-1983). I was told that he had been briefed on much of the UFO story but he could not get read in on the alien autopsy reports, which interested him the most as he was a physiologist.
According to Moore, Dr. Green was, “a person close to the President of the United States, capable of checking on information to determine its reliability.” Years later, Green himself would confirm his presidential UFO connection when he spoke to Pulitzer-prize nominated reporter, Gus Russo. Green told Russo, “I have spoken to three former presidents and the subject always comes up, not as a briefing, but they also want to know the truth. But apparently, they aren’t cleared for it.”
Green was a man who knew something about the “core” UFO story that the government was trying to keep secret. He stated that in 1986 he, physicist Hal Puthoff, and researcher Jacques Vallee had distilled down “what they knew about the subject into the core story.”
Green detailed some of what he knew and believed in an interview with authors Mark Pilkington and John Lundberg. “Simply put,” Green told Pilkington,
“the core story is this: The ETs came here, maybe once, maybe a few times. Either through accident or by design, the U.S. government acquired one of their craft. The only problem was that the physics that powered the craft was so advanced that for decades we humans have struggled to understand it or replicate it.”
I was told a short version of the Green/Walker story in 1990. It goes as follows. In early 1990, after many months, the meeting between Green and Walker finally took place in Walker’s Penn State office. During the first part of the meeting, the two talked about the old days. In particular, they discussed the CIA’s role in the Glomar Explorer project—this was a secret program to recover a sunken Russian nuclear submarine in the Pacific. Both men had been involved with it. This conversation went well for quite a few minutes.
Then Green brought up the subject of UFOs. With that, the atmosphere changed. Walker suddenly became upset and agitated. He began to speak loudly, directing his voice to a pile of books in the corner of the office. He appeared to be giving Green an indirect signal that the room was bugged. In a loud voice, he challenged Green that the president of the United States had not told him he had to talk to Green.
Green was shocked at the sudden turn of events. Essentially, he ended up being thrown out of the office. Moore later told Cameron that he now thought he knew what Walker’s role had been related to UFOs, and it was not quite what Cameron was claiming. He promised “possibly” to tell him in the future, but never did. Many years later Kit Green’s version of the story came out in Jacques Vallee’s book Forbidden Science Volume 3.
Green stated that most UFO researcher were zealots at heart and religious nuts but that Walker was different. He told Vallee. "Ever heard of Eric Walker, president emeritus of Penn State University? He claims that Aliens have indeed been recovered. and taken to Wright-Patterson… You'd be in awe of the man, dean of engineering at Harvard, co-founder of the National Academy of Engineering, Chairman of the Defense Science Board, former head of the JASONs, science adviser to the President, former chairman of TRW,... it goes on and on. He stated that four live Aliens were retrieved. We studied them, they learned our language. We allowed them to blend into the population...”
Then Green detailed to Vallee his version of the meeting that had been set up by Bill Moore.
He still has an office on campus, so I went to see him. I made it clear I had an official portfolio and clearance to talk to him. He asked me two questions: Why I was interested and why I thought the information should be made public. I told him my interest stemmed from concern about misinformation circulating in the media and that I wasn't sure the data should be made public. Those must have been the wrong answers, because he flatly refused to confirm or deny that he had made the comments in question, or written the letters. But I'm sure he wrote them. Dr. Kit Green after speaking to Dr. Eric Walker, the former Chairman of the top military think tank in the country.
Vallee asked what else Walker had said. Green replied. “Damn little. When I asked what could make him change his mind he said,
"Bring me a letter from the President, instructing me to talk to you about that stuff, and I'll call the President to make sure the letter is from him."
So, I said, ‘Perhaps those letters that are circulating over your signature are not really from you, perhaps they're forgeries?’ He wouldn't discuss it, and would I please leave his office immediately?
Also detailed in Vallee’s book is the fact that Hal Puthoff actually contacted Walker trying to get his input of UFO propulsion. I was not aware that this had occurred. Vallee reported what he was told by Puthoff. Hal has received a polite response to his letter of 14 May to Eric Walker suggesting a dialogue about UFO propulsion. Walker replied he was impressed with Hal’s research on zero-point energy and relativistic models of anomalous phenomena, but he added, “You will learn very little from spending much time on what you call ‘some of the more bizarre claimed observations in the UFO field.’ It seems to me that other approaches would be much more fruitful.”
Walker has been dead for almost 30 years now but his words on UFOs transcend time. He was a man who admitted he new everyone on the MJ-12 list of names that circulated in 1985, including President Eisenhower and Truman who were part of MJ-12 document that circulated in the UFO community. He admitted he had been to a briefing on a crashed saucer with bodies in 1950, but he was a man who took most of what he knew to the grave.
His son, a medical Dr., told us that Walker did have a UFO file that was kept at the house and that two crashed were part of that file - one in Pennsylvania and one out west. He said that when he went to move these files to the University archives when Walker died, the UFO file was gone. Walker was an obedient government employee to the very end.
The full Dr. Walker story is found in UFOs, Area 51, and Government Informants.
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