Saturday, October 15, 2016

John Podesta Email Update: A Story of UFO Disclosure

This is an update to my first Podesta UFO Wikileaks article. It provides an extended version discussing what may actually be going on regarding the Podesta UFO emails. What the Wikileaks documents seem to show is support for the idea that there is a UFO disclosure effort of some sorts taking shape in Washington, and that John Podesta is a major player in the effort.

There are actually three UFO initiatives going on – not one. Some have expressed doubt about this choosing to believe the idea that the dumb government knows nothing about UFOs or any alien/ET connection.

1. The Hillary Clinton UFO Initiative 

Public access to government information is a fundamental prerequisite to a functioning democracy. A democratic system is based on the notion that government legitimacy requires the consent of the governed. But to be meaningful that consent must be informed. In other words, elections are only legitimate if people know what they are voting for. And people can only know what they are voting for if they know what their government is doing. Hillary Clinton Campaign Chairman and former Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta

John Podesta and Hillary Clinton 2007

On three occasions during the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton has made a promise that if elected she will look at the secret government files related to the UFO phenomena and release as much as she can. 

Many have interpreted this as some play to get votes. It may help with votes but that is not the main reason it happened. The evidence clearly shows that it was planned and that it is one of at least three disclosure initiatives that now appear to be in play. It was a planned event that was started by John Podesta who Politico described as " a sharp-tongued veteran operator known less for bluster than behind-the-curtain scheme spinning." 

Hillary is just a willing chess piece in a much larger game. Hillary has never brought up the subject of UFOs, and without the actions of the puppet master Podesta, she would have said nothing.

The Hillary UFO initiative began with two tweets made by Podesta long before the first UFO-related question was asked of Hillary in New Hampshire in late December 2015. John Podesta has always been in favor of open government saying that on the UFO issue we must begin the process of weighing national security versus unthinking secrecy. His standard line is, "I think it’s time to open the books on questions that have remained in the dark on the question of government investigations of UFOs."

Podesta began his UFO disclosure plan in February 2015 when he tweeted on his final day in the Obama administration. It was a bold move that caught everyone's attention. He stated that “once again” he had failed to get UFO disclosure. As confirmed later by rock singer Tom DeLonge, Podesta confirmed to DeLonge that he did bring up the UFO disclosure issue with Obama.

The tweet hinted that Podesta had tried during his 6.5 years in the Clinton administartion to get Bill to disclose and now “once again” he had failed in a disclosure effort to move Obama on the issue. Podesta tweeted;

The action caused many requests for interviews, but did not do any.

After leaving the Obama White House Podesta joined Hillary Clinton’s campaign for president. He became the chairperson directing every aspect of the 2016 campaign. The stage was now set for Podesta’s effort to get UFO disclosure through Hillary.

Podesta confirmed in a March 2016 with reporter Steve Sebelius at KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, that it appears Delonge may have helped set up, that he talked to Hillary about disclosing the UFO secret, and she (unlike Bill Clinton and Obama) had agreed to do it.  
I’ve talked to Hillary about that. There are still classified files that could be declassified. I think I’ve convinced her that we need an effort to kind of go look at that and declassify as much as we can so that people have their legitimate questions answered. More attention and more discussion about unexplained aerial phenomena can happen without people — who are in public life, who are serious about this — being ridiculed.
The Lena Dunhan- Hillary Clinton interview that inspired
Podesta request Dunham to ask Hillary about aliens next time.
Once Podesta had convinced Hillary his next move was to get the media to begin asking Hillary questions on the subject. His first public move took place on September 29, 2015, when Podesta made a tweet commenting on a video interview that American actress, writer, producer, and director Lena Dunham had done with Hillary. In the tweet, Podesta bluntly asks her to ask Hillary next time about the aliens.

The tweet is significant because of the way presidential campaigns are run. Everything in a presidential campaign (with the exception of the Trump campaign) is placed in front of a focus group to see if it an issue that can capture the key swing voters that win elections. It is assumed that hardcore Republican and Democratic voters will vote along party lines. Putting ideas in front of focus group helps to determine whether it is an issue that should be talked about or an idea that should be avoided.

The fact that Podesta raised the issue meant that he had screened the UFO idea to make sure it was an idea that should be talked about or avoided. In a billion-dollar campaign, he would never have brought up something that would suddenly cost the candidate 20 points in the polls. Raising the UFO subject meant that it was playing well with the public and would be a positive rather than a negative. Getting votes, however, was not Podesta's main focus.

The first UFO question would not be asked of Hillary until Daymond Steer at the Conway Daily Sun raised the issue with Hillary in late December 2015. It was in reply to Steer's question that Hillary first introduced the idea that if she became president she would disclose as much of the UFO secret as possible. She did not waver or hedge her answer but clearly put out the disclosure platform that she and Podesta had planned.

The key question is why would she raise such a potentially sensitive topic that 99.9% of politicians run from? She did not have to do it, but she did.

The Wikileaks emails have now added new evidence to strongly support the idea that Podesta and Hillary wanted to raise the UFO disclosure issue as part of a bigger goal of UFO/ET disclosure.

In an interview with Jimmy Kimmel in March 2016, Kimmel asked Hillary about UFOs and the fact that her husband Bill had expressed interest in UFOs, but was not able to discover anything about the subject when he became president. Unlike her husband who was cautious and hesitant taking about UFOs, Hillary was quick and to the point with her answer almost like she had the line ready. She told Kimmel,
I would like us to go into those [UFO] files and, hopefully, make as much of that public as possible. If there’s nothing there, let’s tell people there’s nothing there.
What we now know is that Hillary had been expecting Kimmel to ask the UFO question in a November 2015 appearance on the show. This is revealed in a November 6, 2015, WikiLeaks email from Podesta’s  files.

Hillary’s campaign deputy communications director Kristina Schake wrote Podesta about Hillary’s November 5th Kimmel appearance. Schake's job, in the presidential campaign, is described as creating a positive image for Hillary, in the same way as she was able to do it for first lady Michelle Obama.

She detailed how Hillary was able to "work in a lot of message, including climate change," but that Hillary was disappointed at not asked about UFOs, which must have been part of the planned message. Schake noted that Hillary had practised her answer to the question, including five minutes for the part of the answer where she introduced the term UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena). This is a British government term for UFOs that Podesta had picked up from his association with UFO researcher and writer Leslie Kean. (Unfortunately, when Hillary did take the UFO question from Kimmel five months later she messed up what UAPs stood for calling them Unexplained Aerial Phenomena.)

What is most important about the Kimmel is that Hillary not only had she practiced how to say Unidentified Aerial Phenomena it is very evident when watching the video of the interview that she also had an answer to the $64,000 question - Does the president know about UFOs? 

As the presidential UFO guy, in almost every interview I do on the presidents, I am asked ,"Does the president know?" I always reply "Yes." More often than not, that leads the host to bring up Bill Clinton. I will be told he said he didn't know, and that he had said he was probably "not the first president they have lied to or that bureaucrats have waited out."

The Clinton denial of UFO knowledge is exactly the question Kimmel brought up to Hillary and it is completely apparent that she and Podesta practiced the answers in the same way that Hillary spent 7 hours a day for days preparing with Podesta for everything that Donald Trump would throw at her in the debates.

As Hillary smiles and nods positively as if she knows what is coming, Kimmel confronts her
Hillary's look of confidence as she finishes delivering
 her rehearsed line to Jimmy Kimmel about how she will find the
UFO  secrets when her husband could not.
with the Bill Clinton UFO denial. "We had your husband President Clinton on the show, I asked him about UFOs and Area-51 and if he looked into it, because if I was president that is the first thing I would do, I would go and look at those files to see what was going on.(Hillary says 'right') He said he did do that. (Hillary shakes her head up and down and says 'Yes') and that he didn't find anything." 

Immediately with a big smile on her face, Hillary says, "Well (then has to wait for the crowd to stop laughing) Well, I'm going to do it (smiling and pausing) again."

It is absolutely certain that she had rehearsed the answer. It was part of a careful plan.

It is important to note the timing. The email was written about a month after Podesta put out the tweet requesting reporters bring up UFOs with Hillary, and still no one had asked a UFO question. In fact, it would be almost two more months before Hillary took her first UFO question from Steer. The fact that they wanted the UFO question asked by Kimmel is important because according to a 2009 memo written by media specialist for the Clinton campaign Jin Chon to Clinton, it urged her to use shows like Oprah, Ellen and The View “to amplify and deliver messages that advance policy-making.” UFO disclosure had become a policy Podesta and Clinton wanted out, and they were hoping that by bringing it up on Kimmel, it would help.

Schake wrote about the disappointment that Kimmel had not raised the UFO subject.
He didn't end up asking her about UFOs! She was very disappointed. She practiced UAPs for 5 minutes beforehand.
There is, therefore, nothing random about the UFO questions that Hillary has taken. It strongly indicates that there will be something done towards disclosure once Hillary gets elected. It was not simply a ploy to get votes but was part of a much bigger disclosure effort Podesta has been working on for two decades.

2. The Tom DeLonge UFO Disclosure Initiative 

Trust me, the advice is already been happening on how to do all this. Tom DeLonge email to Podesta on a disclosure plan by high-level government officials.

DeLonge Interviews Podesta on UFOs - Juy 21, 2015
The Wikileaks Podesta UFO emails point out the second major UFO disclosure initiative that is taking place in the United States. Tom Delonge, the former head of the band Blink -182 left the band to start an initiative to get the truth of the UFO story to the young people of America who he thought he could reach through his influence in the music industry and his social media outreach. DeLonge stated that he had developed ten high-level government officials who had agreed to help him with his plan.
I have 10 people that I'm working with that are at the highest levels of the Department of Defense and NASA and the military.
As recently released Wikileaks emails point out, Delonge set up a meeting with John Podesta to introduce to him three of the high-level government officials who he stated were helping him disclose the UFO secrets to the American Public. 

The meeting took place in a google hangout on January 25, 2016. Those copied on the meeting were Major General Neil McCasland, former head of the foreign technology back-engineering laboratory at Wright-Patterson AFB, Robert F. Weiss, Executive Vice President and General Manager of Aeronautics Advanced Development Programs, Lockheed Martin Corporation (Skunkworks), and Major General Michael J. Carey, USAF, the Special Assistant to the Commander, Air Force Space Command, Peterson Air Force Base, Colorado. 

Because we do have the notes we are not 100% sure who attended, but it appears from the evidence that all attended. If someone hadn’t attended the there should have been emails declining the important meeting, or reference in an email sent later in the day from DeLonge talking about their absence.

Some working from a skeptical belief structure will point out there is no proof, but before the Wikileaks emails came out many of the same people were claiming DeLonge didn’t even have high-level sources. It seems certain that DeLonge has the contacts he says he has.
The revelation of the January 25, 2016, Podesta hosted meeting is a major development in what we know about the reality of a USAP UFO program. I say this because some have indicated that the Wikileaks UFO documents tell us nothing new.

Tom DeLonge who heads this initiative has said in past interviews that he contacted Podesta outlining his plan to bring out the UFO story to the younger generation. Podesta listened but did not commit. As DeLonge pointed out it was some time later that Podesta phoned back and said he would participate. As DeLonge proves on his website with a picture he did interview Podesta in July 2015. The two UFO related questions that were asked in that interview were;
Q: In your opinion, why are the files having to do with UFO investigations being kept classified and who gains by continuing to keep these files classified? Q: If you were to create a set of guidelines or a group to handle the declassification of UFO-related information and material - how would you go about it?
On October 26, 2015, DeLonge writes an e-mail to Podesta reminding him of the interview and setting up the next step in his planned disclosure effort,
Tom DeLonge here, The one who interviewed you for that special documentary  (Sekret Machines) not too long ago.   Things are moving with the project.
Therefore, when DeLonge set up the January 25, 2016, meeting Podesta already knew that this was a disclosure effort. DeLonge says we “are moving ahead with the project,” without explaining it. He calls it “our sensitive topic.” He didn’t have to explain as he had already briefed Podesta on his plan to bring the UFO story to the younger generation of Americans.
Now some have expressed doubt that the meeting was on UFO disclosure based on a Delonge January 25, 2016, email that DeLonge sent to Podesta late in the day where he said “He (McCasland) mentioned he's a "skeptic", he's not.”

DeLonge countered McCasland’s skepticism stating that 
I've been working with him for four months. I just got done giving him a four-hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago.   I've been working with him for four months. I just got done giving him a four-hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago.   I've been working with him for four months. I just got done giving him a four hour presentation on the entire project a few weeks ago.   Trust me, the advice is already been happening on how to do all this. He just has to say that out loud, but he is very, very aware- as he was in charge of all of the stuff. When Roswell crashed, they shipped it to the laboratory at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. McCasland was in charge of that exact laboratory up to a couple years ago.  He not only knows what I'm trying to achieve, he helped assemble my advisory team. He's a very important man.
The Wikileaks emails also show that there is no doubt that McCasland knew what the meeting was about and was not a reluctant participant. We know this because he carried on an email back and forth with Podesta clarifying the time of the meeting, and he sent the last message when everything was settled saying "Thanks!"

All of the participants in this meeting have been contacted by reporters. Eventually, they will be forced to talk and more details of this apparent disclosure initiative will be revealed.

DeLonge on left - Podesta in middle

The Third Team

I "believe" there is a third initiative going on. (There may be more with whistle blowers and the former disclosure project but I don't follow these closely) A couple years ago I would not have believed that there was such an active move to get out the message. I have changed my mind.

These are not deep throats. They appear to be a group working from instructions from above them. Some are government, some retired, and some civilians. The group I have had very brief encounters with has at least seven people that I know of . There are probably more players than in the DeLonge disclosure initiative. I know four of the players.  I know for a fact that there are at least two crossovers between the two disclosure groups. The key guy in DeLonge's group and this third group may be the same. There are contacts in Washington and a possible connection to the White House. There may, therefore, be a contact to Podesta but I am not sure. There is high confidence about the end goal.

The reason people have not heard of this effort is the fact that there is no spokesperson. I am not a player. I do not interfere. I just watch with interest and appreciate any information I am given. I have had very short conversations with two of the players. I just hear things from time to time. I am told of a three-year time frame. I have the highest regard for the people I know in this group.

I am asked how reliable are the sources I have talked to. The answer is - and people can quote me on it, “I would bet my life on them.”

My conclusion to what is going on has not changed. I have stated and written for decades that there is a program within the United States government to acclimatize the American public to the reality of some sort of non-human intelligence on earth. There are scores of examples.

As a side note, the aliens are doing exactly the same thing but that is another article.

Various people like Walt Disney, Bob Emenegger, Bill Moore/Jamie Shandera, Linda Howe, Steven Greer, and Tom LeLonge have been “managed” with bits and pieces of information to paint a picture of what is going on and at the same time protect the classified programs that surround the UFO mystery.

The scope of the program has increased in the last couple of years for reasons I can only speculate on. My guess would be that the vote to release/not release has changed to a position where the majority controlling the program are now in favor of release. This is backed up by words Hillary Clinton used when talking about her promise to disclose. She stated, “if I can get agreement” indicating that there is some sort of group that advises the president on the subject and there will be a vote.

I am told, and Delonge says the same thing, that the decision to open up has been made. I am told the problem is how to do it, although that too seems to have been decided.

I have also not changed my opinion that the people who are handling this. I believe they are ordinary Americans who believe they are doing the right thing. This belief is backed by the fact that 13 administrations have dealt with this UFO dilemma and everyone has done the same thing. Like the various political positions people take that they think will help the country, the people running the show may be delusional but they are doing the best they can.

The UFO problem is much more complex than people think it is. It is not little aliens flying around in tin can saucers with a little free energy engine that we can duplicate and still in our SUVs so we can drive for free.When it comes to understanding the complete UFO story Thomas Edison summed it up the best, "We don't understand one-millionth of one percent about anything."

I believe the key element is consciousness and that is something that the modern materialistic science world is not prepared to deal with, and they write the modern Sunday School stories. The end of the story will be much more spiritual than physical and that is also something science will have a hard time dealing with.

A complete history of the relationship between John Podesta, Hillary Clinton, Tom LeLonge, and UFOs can be found in my recently published 320-page book called “The Clinton UFO Storybook.”


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  2. Almost 40,000 e-mails to come. There are many I am expecting that will be very "disclosing." Podesta's latest comment about the e-mails to Assange is "I'm still standing."

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  4. Fantastic work as always Grant!!

  5. Please, please proofread. "Because we do have the notes we are not 100% sure who attended." Typos undermine your credibility as a writer, and there are many in this post.